146: How to Have Grace-Filled Political Conversations with Family & Friends // Sarah Stewart Holland & Beth Silvers of Pantsuit Politics

How to have Grace-Filled Political Conversations with Family and Friends, a conversation between Rachel Nielson, host of Top Motherhood Podcast, 3 in 30 Takeaways for Moms, and co-hosts Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers of Pantsuit Politics | Sarah Stewart Holland by popular US mom podcast 3 in 30: image of Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers.

Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers are mothers and attorneys who are passionate about civic engagement, community, and politics. They believe that we can “choose to respect the dignity of every person, choose to recognize that issues are nuanced and can’t be reduced to political talking points, and choose to listen in order to understand.”

Sarah and Beth co-host a podcast called Pantsuit Politics where they model how to have grace-filled political conversations. They also wrote a book called, I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening).

Because of the tools these powerful women teach in their book and on their podcast, I have been able to navigate several heated political conversations with family and friends these past few months in a way that lead to deeper connection between us. (Miraculous, right??) I’m thrilled to have Sarah and Beth on the podcast today to teach us their best tools to navigate these sometimes divisive and exhausting exchanges with our friends and family.

Three Takeaways for Having Grace-Filled Political Conversations with Sarah Stewart Holland

1. Take off your jersey.

2. Exit the echo chamber.

^Suggestions of reputable media sources from both sides

3. Get curious.

Show Notes

Pantsuit Politics Website

Pantsuit Politics Instagram

I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening) (book)

Pantsuit Politics on Apple Podcasts (but it’s available everywhere)

“Sources Swap” suggestions from Beth and Sarah

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  1. leisa stewart on 09/09/2020 at 12:27 PM

    Miss. Rachel, I don’t always have time to listen these days. However, I want you to know that this particularly caught my eye and I made time to listen today. Thank you. I needed to hear the phrases I may use.. ‘I love you, but I think that sounds dangerous’…. etc.. It seems that people – friends etc. have become particularly aggressive in political discussions. No longer feels like a political discussion to me and I have always considered myself open minded and able to see both sides. The aggression from others I sense in our America – in and of itself – is something that limits my ability to listen to others or even consider there views. Thank you for these thoughts and putting energy into this subject. Leisa

    • Rachel Nielson on 09/15/2020 at 4:40 PM

      Yes, I agree, the aggression is scary! I’m so glad this was helpful for you!

  2. Kayle on 09/23/2020 at 6:54 PM

    I’m hosting a political girls night and praying that it can be grace filled! I love the takeaways and I will be sharing this podcast with my group. Thank you!

    • Rachel Nielson on 09/26/2020 at 10:14 PM

      Oh that is awesome!!! WAY TO GO!

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